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[ Help ] [ Abbreviations ] [ Rules of Play ] [ Archive Pg1, LTS ] [ Post ] Total Messages = 536 Last entry posted on: 08/27/2008 19:38:31 CDT 1. WELCOME to LOK TALK!!! (nt) - kmomof12 10/14/2007 12:54:37 CDT (1) ~~~ Additional Forum Rules -- Please Read Before Posting~~~ - LOK-Staff 10/16/2007 05:52:15 CDT (0) 2. ~~~~~ Roll Call ~~~~~ (nt) - kmomof12 10/14/2007 12:58:09 CDT (0) 3. *!* All post prior to April 1, 2008 have been removed. *!* - Mirz 3/13/2007 07:16:01 CDT (0) 4. Article about Terry Schivo on the anniversary of her death... - dizzydeb 04/01/2008 21:10:51 CDT (6) I never did understand a lot of why they decided what they did... - Christine 04/03/2008 10:46:00 CDT (2) What kind of a person he was? - kmomof12 04/04/2008 08:57:30 CDT (2) My thoughts... (m) - Mirz 04/04/2008 10:07:58 CDT (1) I know this has divided the Catholic community. But if a person can not physically eat or drink isn't - kmomof12 04/04/2008 12:06:36 CDT (3) Just wanted to share a few links.... - kmomof12 04/04/2008 12:35:29 CDT (1) The whole eating and drinking thing could be applied to others. --m - Mirz 04/04/2008 12:58:54 CDT (0) Just wanted to add. --m - Mirz 04/04/2008 13:09:56 CDT (0) I did want to mention one more thing about Catholics. --m - Mirz 04/04/2008 16:44:51 CDT (0) Oh, Kim. I wanted to add... (m) - Mirz 04/04/2008 11:42:07 CDT (0) It was murder, plain and simple. This woman was innocent and under no circumstance should we ever starve and dehydrate our handicapped or incapacitated to death. (nt) - YankeeMom 04/04/2008 15:48:31 CDT (0) Wow, I didn't know that. Phew... (m) - Mirz 04/04/2008 10:18:14 CDT (1) It's a very scary trend that we must diligently watch. (nt) - YankeeMom 04/04/2008 15:50:10 CDT (0) That's what sickened me so much about this case (m) - soldieratheart 04/04/2008 16:13:43 CDT (2) You know, I struggled a long time to understand just "why" most people were okay with Terri's death. --m - Mirz 04/04/2008 17:24:16 CDT (0) I'm sorry but you're wrong in your assessment of Terri - kmomof12 04/04/2008 20:47:02 CDT (0) I'm seeing a LOT of misinformation here. If anyone is interested - kmomof12 04/04/2008 18:46:12 CDT (2) The heart of the opposition is that we don't believe that ANYONE had the right to order this woman's murder -- not her husband and not the state. (nt) - YankeeMom 04/04/2008 19:13:03 CDT (0) Well, while I appreciate and understand the report, you have to realize something... (m) - Mirz 04/04/2008 19:41:17 CDT (1) Just to clarify. (m) - Mirz 04/04/2008 19:50:11 CDT (1) LOL I feel like the one playing devil's advocate here... - kmomof12 04/04/2008 20:30:00 CDT (1) Yeah, but Terri Schiavo wasn't NOT interested in food or water because her body was already dying... her body died because those taking care of her refused her the food and water via tube that she needed to live. It's pretty horrible. (nt) - soldieratheart 04/04/2008 20:38:47 CDT (1) No but she WASN'T interested in food because her brain didn't have the ability to be interested in it. - kmomof12 04/04/2008 21:10:33 CDT (2) Please be careful about arguing about feeding tubes... - dizzydeb 04/04/2008 21:33:36 CDT (1) I apologize Debbie if I offended you. I have been trying to temper my responses with - kmomof12 04/04/2008 22:47:28 CDT (1) I want full say, too, but we (as a people) must draw the line at killing. No physician-assisted suicide, "mercy" killings (as in this case), or abortion. (nt) - YankeeMom 04/05/2008 15:13:54 CDT (1) Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree because - kmomof12 04/05/2008 18:49:53 CDT (1) Two things here -- 1.) brain dead IS dead. There's no coming back. You are gone forever. 2.) It is cruel and unnecesary to withhold strong painkillers for dying people. It should be what we focus on -- not "mercy" killing, IMO. Anything else is a scary, slippery slope. In the Shaivo case, we have state-sanctioned murder. (nt) - YankeeMom 04/05/2008 21:03:13 CDT (0) An infant doesn't have "conscience" interest in drinking or eating, either -- it's just a basic need, like oxygen. To purposely deny that to someone is murder and inhumane. I'm not attacking you (because I see you are not getting much support on this), but I cannot see it any other way -- nothing else matters. (nt) - YankeeMom 04/05/2008 15:11:33 CDT (1) You're right, oxygen is a basic need, even moreso then food and water. Yet that can and is denied to people all the time. - kmomof12 04/05/2008 18:21:41 CDT (1) I'm sorry, but I'm against all of that. A person has the autonomy to refuse those things, but I don't think anyone should be able to do it on behalf of another or help them die. (nt) - YankeeMom 04/05/2008 21:08:16 CDT (1) How can you be against the body doing something natural? - kmomof12 04/07/2008 06:56:51 CDT (2) I think there is a difference between providing a patient oxygen and putting them on a ventilator. --m - Mirz 04/07/2008 07:25:15 CDT (1) But every single medical procedure IS something you have the option of accepting or denying. - kmomof12 04/07/2008 11:42:22 CDT (0) I don't understand . . . - YankeeMom 04/07/2008 09:08:37 CDT (1) It's done all the time!! - kmomof12 04/07/2008 11:14:05 CDT (0) I guess I ought to explain my 2 cents on the issue... - dizzydeb 04/04/2008 21:52:10 CDT (0) An observation. (m) - Mirz 04/06/2008 08:45:18 CDT (0) 5. I don't know if I mentioned this before, but remember that woman who was arrested because she left her sleeping baby in the car at the Walmart? --m - Mirz 04/08/2008 09:51:16 CDT (1) Whew! Glad it was dropped - it was so ridiculous! (nt) - soldieratheart 04/08/2008 20:45:43 CDT (0) 6. What are your thoughts on the pologymist family found in West Texas? (nt) - Christine 04/09/2008 20:18:55 CDT (2) Well, I am very HORRIFIED, and was shocked, frustrated, sickened, and upset by my husband's response. - Babyfactry 04/10/2008 12:57:41 CDT (1) I am saddened by a lot of the stuff that is coming out now but... - Christine 04/10/2008 15:38:53 CDT (1) I was one and my sisters too... not FLDS just nut job parents... - Mama-Cleary 04/15/2008 18:25:14 CDT (1) Heidi... - Christine 04/18/2008 10:56:58 CDT (0) I dont agree with it at all - jizo 04/16/2008 19:16:22 CDT (0) 7. Kiddiebooks...Welcome to the board...Care to expound on your take of what the military is? - kmomof12 04/13/2008 07:42:24 CDT (2) Um...WHAT!?! That is weird. Where'd you find that comment? (m) - soldieratheart 04/13/2008 10:33:25 CDT (1) Natalie, it's a new comment made up above - kmomof12 04/13/2008 13:07:41 CDT (1) Oops! Sorry about that... I'd be interested in her take, too! Sorry for jumping in too fast :)! (nt) - soldieratheart 04/13/2008 15:49:54 CDT (0) checking in just now here... - jizo 04/16/2008 02:58:34 CDT (2) Hi, Jodi. I've missed you around LOK. (((HUGS))) (nt) - Mirz 04/17/2008 17:40:58 CDT (1) I just noticed here. Love ya Michelle - jizo 05/11/2008 22:23:24 CDT (0) Jodie! (m) - Christine 04/18/2008 10:49:31 CDT (1) Just love hugging you back Christine! (nt) - jizo 05/11/2008 22:25:16 CDT (0) 8. "Art" continues to be redefined (distrubing in nature) . . . - YankeeMom 04/17/2008 17:31:19 CDT (4) Honestly, Kristin... (m) - Mirz 04/17/2008 17:39:54 CDT (0) Yale: Student artwork purporting to show abortion a hoax - msjennbug 04/17/2008 22:54:19 CDT (1) Yes, just saw this today . . . - YankeeMom 04/18/2008 09:03:43 CDT (0) Not a hoax . . . - YankeeMom 04/18/2008 14:09:01 CDT (0) Urr, yuck, thats just disgusting! - jizo 05/11/2008 22:30:56 CDT (0) 9. About the FLDS catastrophe...(m) - soldieratheart 04/18/2008 19:05:00 CDT (3) I haven't followed this case very closely . . . - YankeeMom 04/19/2008 09:37:32 CDT (2) Kristin please....(no pretty please icon on this board!) - gelsum 04/22/2008 18:01:14 CDT (1) Oh, I know they are not part of the current LDS church . . . - YankeeMom 04/23/2008 16:12:53 CDT (1) Thanks Kristin! We get so much around here from people - gelsum 04/23/2008 20:21:49 CDT (1) I can imagine . . . - YankeeMom 04/24/2008 16:06:36 CDT (0) I have copied and pasted an article here - gelsum 04/23/2008 09:46:25 CDT (0) you are right... - Mama-Cleary 04/20/2008 11:41:00 CDT (0) I disagree that they were taken away based on the belief system - kmomof12 04/20/2008 20:01:30 CDT (1) The problem I have here, though (m) - soldieratheart 04/23/2008 21:52:01 CDT (1) I wondered why they didn't go this family by family at first - kmomof12 04/24/2008 10:15:38 CDT (0) 10. Harry Potter in court... - kmomof12 04/22/2008 19:27:36 CDT (2) Um, I have to tell you something... (m) - Mirz 04/23/2008 10:09:03 CDT (0) I think what I find funny about her suing is that there was a lady who said that she stole Harry Potter from her.. - Christine 04/23/2008 14:47:36 CDT (1) I found the books listed on Alibris, Larry, Lillie and the muggles... - Christine 04/23/2008 14:53:55 CDT (1) Well I disagree and quite a few upper courts also disagree. Link to case summary inside... - kmomof12 05/11/2008 16:06:53 CDT (0) 11. Are modern kids coddled? - kmomof12 04/29/2008 12:33:24 CDT (2) I hadn't seen the article, and to be honest, I'm really torn. - Babyfactry 05/01/2008 17:41:42 CDT (0) From my personal experience society has made it so that parents HAVE to coddle their kids - kmomof12 05/11/2008 16:40:08 CDT (0) 12. This may be the wrong place for this... But, I've recently realized I'm one step closer to divorce, and it bothers me... - Babyfactry 05/04/2008 10:42:27 CDT (4) My thoughts... - Christine 05/04/2008 12:51:40 CDT (0) It sounds to me (m) - soldieratheart 05/04/2008 20:17:34 CDT (1) . (nt) - Christine 05/04/2008 22:08:41 CDT (0) First of all I'm sorry - room4more 05/06/2008 00:11:50 CDT (0) I agree with what has been said, from a different angle - jizo 05/11/2008 23:59:54 CDT (0) 13. At what age does the commandment 'Obey your Father & Mother' cease to apply? (m) - mini-mug 05/06/2008 06:40:19 CDT (2) I think.... - gelsum 05/06/2008 10:36:09 CDT (1) Very well said. Totally agree! (nt) - room4more 05/07/2008 01:09:25 CDT (0) While I agree with what Gelsum said, here's a bit from my POV - Babyfactry 05/07/2008 16:32:13 CDT (1) No, I haven't moved back home (m) - mini-mug 05/13/2008 07:17:06 CDT (1) just cuz I want to bug you, any baby plans yet??? (nt) - Mama-Cleary 05/14/2008 19:28:27 CDT (1) No, not yet. Not this side of marriage. And that's out of my hands. (nt) - mini-mug 05/19/2008 11:39:26 CDT (1) hmmm, how long have you been together??? (nt) - Mama-Cleary 05/19/2008 12:35:37 CDT (1) A little over 2 years. (nt) - mini-mug 05/19/2008 13:05:47 CDT (0) 14. wild food questions... - Mama-Cleary 05/06/2008 14:11:22 CDT (1) I'd watch out. You need some really competent local person to show you what's edible and what's not. Mushrooms are ESPECIALLY dangerous . . . . - DesertFather 05/07/2008 20:30:28 CDT (0) 15. Canada funding Tamil Tigers terrorist (nt) - Mama-Cleary 05/07/2008 17:33:38 CDT (2) also Tamil terror group's manual revealed (nt) - Mama-Cleary 05/07/2008 17:45:36 CDT (0) I'am back! Boy, how I have missed a good debate. - canadianmom 05/22/2008 10:43:25 CDT (1) wow sorry about your son... - Mama-Cleary 05/22/2008 23:51:38 CDT (1) Thanks Heidi, I have not gone to have it reversed yet, just in the process of assesment right now. (nt) - canadianmom 05/23/2008 12:23:10 CDT (0) 16. The taco truck war.... - kmomof12 05/11/2008 13:29:16 CDT (3) I know a guy in the restaurant business, and he says that sales industry-wide are down 20% or more. --m - Mirz 05/11/2008 16:32:46 CDT (0) I think it's like always, trying to push the little guy out... - Babyfactry 05/13/2008 06:55:49 CDT (0) A little of both..we had a lot of vendors like these in our old neighborhood (m) - Christine 05/13/2008 10:45:44 CDT (0) 17. How far do we go to help out Burma/Myanmar? - kmomof12 05/11/2008 13:41:23 CDT (4) no I say stay out unless they ask for help... they might let the red cross or something in... - Mama-Cleary 05/11/2008 20:37:15 CDT (0) It is devastating to read the conditions, - jizo 05/11/2008 23:02:10 CDT (1) OT, Jodie, did you change your screen name? (nt) - jemarmy 05/18/2008 21:14:23 CDT (1) OT is that Out There......Yes - jizo 05/20/2008 19:17:12 CDT (1) Sorry I didnt notice this earlier (nt) - jizo 05/20/2008 19:18:33 CDT (0) Should anyone 'invade'? No. (m) - mini-mug 05/12/2008 02:47:21 CDT (0) This is an article that is regular, but the comments at the bottom - jizo 05/15/2008 01:00:14 CDT (1) Nyein Chan makes it seem as though we're being told - kmomof12 05/15/2008 11:15:04 CDT (1) Finally getting back here and looking at the article again, there is some more comments - jizo 05/20/2008 09:31:58 CDT (0) 18. at what age do you start to get your toddler a kids meal??? - Mama-Cleary 05/17/2008 14:37:05 CDT (3) When my oldest were young, we NEVER got the kids meals... - Babyfactry 05/17/2008 17:37:28 CDT (0) you mean.... like.... at a fast food place????? - msjennbug 05/18/2008 13:42:34 CDT (0) I never name it. It's just, who's eating - jizo 05/20/2008 09:41:14 CDT (0) 19. dang first the stuff in Burma and now in China... I'm starting to think the Earth hates us... (nt) - Mama-Cleary 05/19/2008 13:47:47 CDT (1) Or, where there is too much unrest, nature takes a hand! - jizo 05/20/2008 09:46:08 CDT (0) 20. The Hague Convention - jizo 05/20/2008 19:59:23 CDT (1) ok, in light of the next thread....cept - jizo 06/10/2008 22:16:50 CDT (0) 21. ok, this has been on my mind so don't think I am bashing anyone PLZ... - Mama-Cleary 05/22/2008 11:25:22 CDT (3) Ok... - mini-mug 05/22/2008 11:35:35 CDT (2) hmmm... - Mama-Cleary 05/22/2008 11:57:48 CDT (1) hehe, I think you'll have to ask an American on that one... - mini-mug 05/22/2008 12:09:19 CDT (0) Also, having tried to figure out your heritage here... - mini-mug 05/22/2008 12:05:41 CDT (1) yep that looks right... - Mama-Cleary 05/22/2008 12:26:10 CDT (0) As a Jew I must weigh in...(m) - soldieratheart 05/22/2008 19:38:28 CDT (1) well that just made me have more questions... - Mama-Cleary 05/22/2008 23:09:04 CDT (2) Jews are NOT A RACE! - soldieratheart 05/23/2008 08:49:39 CDT (1) I can understand the argument against the word "race", but not ethnic. You are a Jew through birth or adoption. Judaism is the religion of the Jews. (You can be a Jew and not practice Judaism.) (nt) - YankeeMom 05/24/2008 10:12:16 CDT (1) Yes, and if you convert you become a Jew, period, even if you afterwards stop practicing. (nt) - soldieratheart 05/26/2008 18:01:16 CDT (1) But you have to initially convert to Judaism -- the religion -- to qualify. (nt) - YankeeMom 05/26/2008 18:32:41 CDT (1) how can you convert to something if you are born it??? - Mama-Cleary 05/26/2008 21:43:58 CDT (1) You can convert to Judaism, the religion. (nt) - YankeeMom 05/27/2008 08:04:24 CDT (0) My thoughts . . . - YankeeMom 05/24/2008 10:09:15 CDT (1) No, no, NO! - soldieratheart 05/26/2008 17:59:29 CDT (1) I disagree, there are ethnic Jews . . . - YankeeMom 05/26/2008 18:26:57 CDT (1) I was doing some research and found a lot of web pages say "Being Jewish is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry or biological distinction" - Mama-Cleary 05/26/2008 21:27:38 CDT (2) something else that throws me off is when people say that is a Jewish name... Like my Great Grandmother had the last name Zebi... or other last names... (nt) - Mama-Cleary 05/26/2008 21:34:20 CDT (0) Yes, they do share a common heritage/ancestory. They are of the line of Abraham through his son, Isaac. (nt) - YankeeMom 05/27/2008 08:05:44 CDT (0) please read my 2nd post under 53 and tell me if you think it is related? (nt) - jizo 06/10/2008 22:23:58 CDT (0) 22. I've heard talk of the presidental candidates screening for the VP position... - kmomof12 05/22/2008 15:50:18 CDT (3) I think Al would be nice... - Mama-Cleary 05/22/2008 22:52:27 CDT (0) IMO, McCain must . . . - YankeeMom 05/27/2008 09:08:18 CDT (1) we were just saying this the other night. (nt) - TrulyBlessed 05/27/2008 21:15:34 CDT (0) I think an Obama/Clinton ticket would be unstoppable. (nt) - jemarmy 06/03/2008 16:38:34 CDT (0) 23. Let's get our teeth into this one. Anyone want to weigh how the gas prices are gonna kill our economy? Do you think the government should step in and regulate prices? (nt) - Mirz 05/28/2008 18:51:11 CDT (4) I don't know about "kill", but 2 terrible signs for the economy are high gas prices and housing drops and we are seeing both. (nt) - YankeeMom 05/28/2008 19:34:55 CDT (0) the thing is the more we use biofuels and electric cars the more big oil has to charge to make up for the loss, - Mama-Cleary 05/28/2008 23:21:55 CDT (0) Ok, Ed and I talked about this one just before he left.... - Babyfactry 05/30/2008 14:47:45 CDT (0) Rising gas prices - jizo 06/11/2008 08:01:03 CDT (0) 24. ok, I found this on youtube and well... what do you think??? is she wrong??? (nt) - Mama-Cleary 05/28/2008 23:27:32 CDT (9) I'm speechless...... (nt) - momtoabunch 05/29/2008 07:47:08 CDT (0) I'm speechless...... (nt) - momtoabunch 05/29/2008 07:56:00 CDT (0) I found that extremely disturbing. The girls' continued obsession with their mother's breasts (naming them, drawing pictures, etc.) only fuels the fire. Ugh. (nt) - YankeeMom 05/29/2008 08:31:28 CDT (0) That really weirded me out, I couldn't even watch the whole thing. I think it is excessive, and probably more comfort-providing to the mother, not the kids. (nt) - soldieratheart 05/29/2008 10:53:06 CDT (0) At first I was uneasy about it - kmomof12 05/29/2008 23:42:48 CDT (1) The bus has been picking this kid up for 3 or 4 years now!!! (nt) - momtoabunch 06/05/2008 07:34:34 CDT (0) In our society, it is something I am pretty darn sure I wouldn't be advertising it after the age of 3. - Babyfactry 05/30/2008 13:54:39 CDT (0) I don't know whether nursing that long is damaging or not, but I'm pretty sure this type of publicity is. I wonder if mom/dad thought about that. (nt) - jemarmy 05/30/2008 19:03:02 CDT (0) I can't get on board with that either. I wouldn't let my 8yo sleep in a crib or wear a diaper, or any other "baby" things, The goal is to let your children grow-up. And nursing at that age is not nutritionally needed. (nt) - kbauersachsmom5 06/03/2008 12:27:52 CDT (0) ive seen this somewhere before......only thing i can think is, yuck.and ewww. - jizo 06/10/2008 22:21:44 CDT (0) 25. wild cats... - Mama-Cleary 05/30/2008 08:03:04 CDT (1) From my experiences... - Babyfactry 05/30/2008 13:42:13 CDT (1) . (nt) - gelsum 05/31/2008 21:14:26 CDT (0) 26. Tainted tomatoes being pulled from Grocers shelves... - Babyfactry 06/04/2008 21:57:55 CDT (1) I think it's scary. Honestly, I'm a bit of a cynic and I know how big business runs. --m - Mirz 06/06/2008 08:06:54 CDT (0) 27. Spurring a Movement - Leech14 06/06/2008 01:25:48 CDT (0) 28. Medical Treatment! I thought we had the right to refuse it? (m) - soldieratheart 06/07/2008 19:49:43 CDT (4) that is scary i was with you in this boat i thought we had the right to choose - azmommaof6 06/09/2008 09:04:10 CDT (0) We actually did have to make that decision..... - Jene6children 06/09/2008 14:27:11 CDT (0) I have started responding to this at least 3 times! Hopefully this time I can finish. - kmomof12 06/10/2008 09:28:30 CDT (1) It's a fine line with state intervention (m) - soldieratheart 06/10/2008 10:59:16 CDT (0) I was visiting family living in the same area as him when all that came out (m) - Karen 06/10/2008 21:45:22 CDT (0) 29. What kind of driver are you....Merging debate - kmomof12 06/10/2008 17:16:33 CDT (1) I am laughing here at some of the commentors in the article. --m - Mirz 06/12/2008 20:12:15 CDT (0) 30. Do you think it would be smart of Obama to pick Clinton for a running mate? (nt) - kmomof12 06/10/2008 17:18:12 CDT (3) I think it would kill his chances. (nt) - msjennbug 06/11/2008 22:09:18 CDT (0) I think a lot of people want to see it, and from a "historical" viewpoint, it would be neat. However, I have to agree with Jenn. --m - Mirz 06/12/2008 20:08:29 CDT (0) Sure . . . as long as he doesn't venture down any dark allys alone . . . (nt) - YankeeMom 06/16/2008 15:26:31 CDT (0) 31. Bridezilla~I know it is a show but I see it as a growing trend among Americans-sadly(m) - Karen 06/10/2008 22:48:37 CDT (2) I'm with you on this one. I haven't seen the show, but this is a growing trend in reality t.v. --m - Mirz 06/12/2008 20:04:38 CDT (0) I have specifically NOT watched Bridezilla because I didn't want to encourage that type of behavior. - Babyfactry 07/08/2008 12:37:58 CDT (0) 32. Cleansing the language in trials... - kmomof12 06/12/2008 07:13:34 CDT (1) You know, I'm just torn on this one. --m - Mirz 06/12/2008 20:00:45 CDT (0) 33. Should someone be held responsible for lies told online? - kmomof12 06/12/2008 10:55:08 CDT (3) Fixed the 2 links in the above post. (nt) - Mirz 06/12/2008 19:36:28 CDT (0) Actually, this case has gotten to the indictment stage, and it's very interesting what is happening. --m - Mirz 06/12/2008 19:57:03 CDT (0) Here's a link to the press release from the DOJ about the indictment. --m - Mirz 06/12/2008 20:23:56 CDT (0) 34. *!* We're back and with a couple of new features! *!* - Mirz 06/16/2008 10:32:40 CDT (0) 35. Online privacy...blogs, myspace, message boards - kmomof12 06/17/2008 10:04:14 CDT (3) My views . . . - YankeeMom 06/19/2008 09:52:32 CDT (0) This is a hot topic for me. --m - Mirz 06/19/2008 17:01:39 CDT (1) Actually, having family find out you're pregnant through a source that they're not "supposed" to know about can be GREAT! It means they can assimilate the news for as long as they need to, but CAN'T come out and say rude things to you while they do so. (m) - DesertFather 06/24/2008 19:47:42 CDT (1) Glad it worked out for you, but for us it was a negative and awkward situation. (nt) - Mirz 06/25/2008 11:52:35 CDT (0) Chiming in now that I know I'm not talking to myself ;o) - kmomof12 06/19/2008 17:43:21 CDT (0) 36. Would you be willing to pay 10% more? --m - Mirz 06/18/2008 11:21:56 CDT (2) an all you can eat place we go to quit the .99 for kids under 12 so we can't eat out as much... (nt) - Mama-Cleary 06/19/2008 11:59:26 CDT (0) While I understand their reluctance to raise prices. - kmomof12 06/19/2008 17:49:29 CDT (1) Well, I was thinking about this, and the one advantage to charging a surcharge is they would remove it without incident. If you raise the price on an item, when food costs go down, oftentime a restaurant will not compensate by lowering a price again. (nt) - Mirz 06/19/2008 17:51:31 CDT (0) 37. Court overturns fathers grounding of 12 year old - rejinxed 06/21/2008 09:17:35 CDT (2) Yes, we are going to see more of this . . . - YankeeMom 06/21/2008 10:16:13 CDT (0) What about the fact that the girl isn't even "legally" suppose - kmomof12 06/23/2008 12:07:36 CDT (0) 38. Teaching responsible alcohol use or cultivating alcoholism? - kmomof12 06/23/2008 12:02:14 CDT (4) I am on the fence here. - Bethash 06/25/2008 11:02:16 CDT (0) While I think I'm on the fence....getting ready to respond I realized... - kmomof12 07/02/2008 07:50:40 CDT (0) My parents let us try their drinks growing up... - Imzadi 07/03/2008 10:24:12 CDT (0) Being raised Mormon, I had one view on this... - Babyfactry 07/11/2008 18:33:54 CDT (0) 39. Does anyone here Home Church? - caas 06/24/2008 15:11:44 CDT (8) I am assuming that is when all religious learning and worship is at home? Sounds like an interesting concept. (nt) - Karen 06/25/2008 09:30:18 CDT (0) You need to better define what you mean by "home church" b/c it means different things to different people. - msjennbug 06/25/2008 21:07:08 CDT (0) We used to. (nt) - mummyshome 06/27/2008 07:18:14 CDT (0) We met with about 25 other people in each other's homes for 3 years in the early 90's. (m) - Nine-Arrows 06/27/2008 21:46:05 CDT (0) We do! :) We felt very called to this about 3 years ago. (nt) - Chelsey 06/30/2008 11:59:53 CDT (1) I should clarify - we meet with other families! :) - Chelsey 06/30/2008 12:05:57 CDT (3) Hey, Chelsey - msjennbug 06/30/2008 13:10:29 CDT (0) Thanks, and I would love to hear more... - caas 06/30/2008 21:31:08 CDT (1) So, basically here is what lead to it... - Chelsey 07/03/2008 06:49:02 CDT (1) You can check out the Vision Forum Website for Family-Integrated churches as well as list your own home-church. Not all of these are home churches, though. Link is inside - Chelsey 07/03/2008 06:53:49 CDT (0) Thanks for posting . . . - YankeeMom 07/01/2008 09:32:30 CDT (0) I am attending my first home church this saturday.we've been invited by most the people in our homeschooling group.i am very excited to check it out. (nt) - azmommaof6 07/08/2008 00:28:46 CDT (0) My 2 cents worth - jizo 08/16/2008 17:31:59 CDT (0) I am looking for a home church in Illinois..m - mummyshome 08/19/2008 11:14:57 CDT (0) 40. New here and wanted to say hi before I started posting. - mom9kiddos 06/30/2008 14:13:20 CDT (3) Hi and nice to meet you. (nt) - YankeeMom 07/01/2008 09:27:29 CDT (0) Hi Kasey I'm glad you decided to join us. (nt) - kmomof12 07/02/2008 07:30:31 CDT (0) Welcome Kasey - duedrop 07/10/2008 05:42:38 CDT (1) Hi to both of you! - jizo 08/16/2008 17:37:45 CDT (0) 41. arrggg, more price changes... soda went from 2.55 to 2. 79 and soy milk went from 2.59 to 3.19!!! and to top it off my Winn-Dixie hasn't been printing me coupons when I cash out... (nt) - Mama-Cleary 06/30/2008 18:18:21 CDT (0) 42. We need to get this joint jumping! What do you think of this piece of news? . . . - YankeeMom 07/09/2008 16:25:57 CDT (2) I can see that logic. I'm hoping though that - kmomof12 07/10/2008 07:23:33 CDT (0) I wonder if these "threats" are just attempts to manipulate us. - jemarmy 07/13/2008 12:49:42 CDT (2) That was my thought too (or similar at least) [m] - mini-mug 07/14/2008 07:17:59 CDT (0) Well, Joe Lieberman made the case in that particular article, but it's been mentioned by many experts (you can do a search on it.) You can't deny the history behind these attacks on new Presidents. (nt) - YankeeMom 07/14/2008 23:04:23 CDT (0) 43. Here's a theoretical WWYD - kmomof12 07/10/2008 07:31:57 CDT (4) No -- didn't you hear what Doc Brown said about that in "Back to the Future"?! (nt) - YankeeMom 07/10/2008 09:43:26 CDT (0) I wouldn't change anything,.. with my luck my good deed whould make things worse... I think if I went back in time I would just hide out and let things happen, but then I would love to go the other way and see the flying cars and move to Mars (I'm such a dork) (nt) - Mama-Cleary 07/11/2008 13:32:59 CDT (0) I'm of the mind... (m) - Mirz 07/11/2008 15:42:35 CDT (1) Now I'll tell the story ending... - kmomof12 07/12/2008 16:14:23 CDT (1) I've seen that one. It gave me chills down my spine. (nt) - Christine 07/14/2008 09:40:19 CDT (0) My view is... - mini-mug 07/11/2008 16:31:08 CDT (0) 44. Mom Loses Kids - YankeeMom 07/11/2008 14:54:13 CDT (5) While I think it's sad that she is teaching her children to HATE, it IS her right. The government should not have a control like that. - Babyfactry 07/11/2008 16:02:54 CDT (1) In Britain, 'inciting racial hatred' is a crime. I don't know if a similar law exists in Canada. I don't know. I'm not sure if the children should have been taken away or not, but imho, sending a 7yo child to school with a swastika drawn on them is pretty sick. (nt) - mini-mug 07/12/2008 06:34:48 CDT (1) I think the laws are similar -- and just as outrageous, IMO. (nt) - YankeeMom 07/14/2008 23:02:31 CDT (0) I don't think anyone is disputing that the mother's actions were disgusting (m) - soldieratheart 07/12/2008 08:26:33 CDT (0) Just for the sake of debate...playing devil's advocate... - kmomof12 07/12/2008 15:14:49 CDT (1) I think it would be awfully hard to prosecute someone for a "hate crime" in this country just for a drawing like that. (This does, however, re-inforce my strong stance AGAINST hate crime legislation!) (nt) - YankeeMom 07/14/2008 23:01:28 CDT (0) OK...now MY opinion lol - kmomof12 07/12/2008 15:22:39 CDT (0) Interestingly about the swastika, it is actually a symbol related to - jizo 08/16/2008 18:53:49 CDT (1) You know the kids and I were talking about this yesterday! - canadianmom 08/16/2008 20:21:16 CDT (0) 45. Just dropping in to say "HI" and to pass on a quick thank-you. (m) - Mirz 07/12/2008 07:20:06 CDT (1) Thanks Michelle I appreciate it. I do have to say though... - kmomof12 07/12/2008 16:28:23 CDT (0) 46. I'm loving "The New Yorker" today . . . - YankeeMom 07/15/2008 11:59:50 CDT (1) I meant to comment on this. --m - Mirz 07/18/2008 18:04:27 CDT (0) 47. Opinions.on.abortion.protest.techniques. - Tiddlywinks 07/18/2008 10:54:07 CDT (3) This is really interesting you posted about this issue. --m - Mirz 07/18/2008 16:01:27 CDT (1) Shes.in.Atlanta. - Tiddlywinks 07/18/2008 17:24:39 CDT (0) Here.are.some.of.the.comments.from.the.blog... (nt) - Tiddlywinks 07/18/2008 17:51:41 CDT (1) Ugh. Yeah, this is certainly one of the "hot" topics. I agree with what you said above. --m - Mirz 07/18/2008 18:03:07 CDT (0) I'm not comfortable with it . . . - YankeeMom 07/21/2008 10:08:41 CDT (0) 48. Church cancels gun giveaway for teens - kmomof12 07/21/2008 10:25:33 CDT (6) Obviously, someone was NOT thinking on this one. (nt) - gelsum 07/21/2008 19:26:16 CDT (0) Absolutely a "what were they THINKING?" time. --m - Mirz 07/22/2008 11:45:19 CDT (0) *shaking.my.head*yeah.its.not.a.hunting.gun.Its.a.gun.for.killing.people.period. (nt) - Tiddlywinks 07/22/2008 15:08:00 CDT (0) This isn't the first year for this and it won't be the last... m - Iceeholic 07/22/2008 23:02:05 CDT (2) See, I don't have a problem with that. --m - Mirz 07/23/2008 07:28:53 CDT (0) My problem is WHO they are giving this thing to. I thought I read somewhere - kmomof12 07/23/2008 10:28:36 CDT (0) Churches drive me crazy enough lately without this, LOL. (nt) - YankeeMom 07/23/2008 09:01:56 CDT (0) The mind boggle... (m) - mini-mug 07/25/2008 14:38:00 CDT (2) Hi Sally,long time no"type" hehe, - canadianmom 07/25/2008 15:03:27 CDT (0) The Constitution . . . - YankeeMom 07/25/2008 18:11:55 CDT (1) The people are the militia. (nt) - jemarmy 08/05/2008 14:42:59 CDT (1) Ok, I see... - mini-mug 08/05/2008 15:21:00 CDT (0) 49. Discounts offered for customers paying with cash - kmomof12 07/21/2008 11:34:00 CDT (2) We have had them for as long as I can remember... - gelsum 07/21/2008 19:52:07 CDT (0) I wish they offered a discount on cash paying here bc we don't have credit cards we only pay cash for every thing (nt) - proudmommy5 07/22/2008 10:34:00 CDT (0) 50. Social indifference? Racial discrimination? - kmomof12 07/21/2008 11:55:16 CDT (3) I think maybe its a little bit of both. Sad in either case. (nt) - Iceeholic 07/22/2008 23:03:36 CDT (0) If they didn't help those girls . . . - YankeeMom 07/23/2008 09:04:46 CDT (1) They did try to help the girls - kmomof12 07/23/2008 10:32:43 CDT (0) I think it's racial, the Roma are an unliked group of people there. (m) - Karen 07/23/2008 11:09:50 CDT (0) 51. Paparazzi....part of the job or money hungry vultures? - kmomof12 07/25/2008 08:22:41 CDT (2) Vultures, the lowest of the bottom feeding " media". (nt) - canadianmom 07/25/2008 09:47:05 CDT (0) It seems to me that there are plenty of celebs that find a way to get out of the lime light - IF they really want to. I'm not feeling so sorry for the Jolie-Pitt camp. (nt) - room4more 07/29/2008 21:49:37 CDT (0) 52. Crossing nursing on the increase....what are your thoughts? (link inside) - kmomof12 07/28/2008 07:53:29 CDT (7) Well, it's certainly not the social norm here or in most industrialized countries. (m) - soldieratheart 07/28/2008 16:08:54 CDT (1) The bodily fluids thing is a draw back to me... - heatherjean 07/29/2008 08:49:18 CDT (0) It used to be common among the wealthy the world over . . . - YankeeMom 07/29/2008 09:50:01 CDT (1) This is what I was thinking...+ some... - gelsum 07/29/2008 18:52:44 CDT (0) I never have, but I would (m) - lucina3 07/29/2008 15:41:47 CDT (0) I nursed my best friends baby for several weeks after she was in a car accident & then pumped for him to help her out when she couldn't pump enough to supply him while she worked. I also nursed my newborn granddaughter while her mommy (my DIL) was recovering from the general they gave her for her emergency c-section (m) - Denise1066 07/29/2008 20:43:41 CDT (0) I think that if people like the pp's are okay with it - more power to'em, but I would only want to do it or have it done for one of mine in an ER situation. (nt) - room4more 07/29/2008 21:45:58 CDT (0) Other than the concern for communicable diseases, medication or drug contamination I don't see how people can say it's weird - kmomof12 07/30/2008 09:03:23 CDT (2) I guess what I meant about bodily fluids (m) - soldieratheart 07/30/2008 10:46:00 CDT (1) I can see what you are saying. (nt) - Tiddlywinks 08/03/2008 00:04:43 CDT (0) Weird for me to see someone else nurse MY baby . . . - YankeeMom 07/30/2008 14:10:56 CDT (0) My cousins did this in an emergent situation... - momtoabunch 08/03/2008 09:23:52 CDT (1) That is kind of how it started the first time I nursed a baby that wasn't my own (m) - Denise1066 08/04/2008 15:44:19 CDT (0) 53. Anyone want to talk Olympics in China? - msjennbug 08/03/2008 12:51:53 CDT (4) Last ditch efforts to clean the air - msjennbug 08/03/2008 12:55:06 CDT (2) I find it odd that they didn't spend more time thinking about the effects of the pollution before choosing China (m) - Denise1066 08/04/2008 15:26:11 CDT (0) Did you all hear about THIS? . . . - YankeeMom 08/07/2008 09:06:53 CDT (0) I'd rather go than talk about it! But it is too bad that China is hosting. Otherwise, I LOVE LOVE the Olympics. (nt) - YankeeMom 08/04/2008 11:51:30 CDT (2) I'm intrigued as to what you mean by that. (nt) - mini-mug 08/04/2008 14:32:09 CDT (1) There are a lot of problems with China as a whole . . . - YankeeMom 08/04/2008 18:36:55 CDT (1) Ah, ok. I just came across this article and wondered what you thought of it (li) (nt) - mini-mug 08/05/2008 15:35:14 CDT (2) I agree with most of it . . . - YankeeMom 08/07/2008 08:54:17 CDT (0) I think it was fair in pointing out "starting point", but then again in this article the starting point only goes back one generation..... - jizo 08/16/2008 22:39:04 CDT (0) I think its is great that China is hosting the Olympics. Actually I would go as far to say - jizo 08/16/2008 22:51:29 CDT (0) estimated 1.5million people evicted from their homes to make room for the olympics - msjennbug 08/04/2008 16:13:25 CDT (1) Chicago is in contention for the 2016 summer games. --m - Mirz 08/04/2008 17:34:27 CDT (1) here's a link that talks about how many in the past 20yrs - msjennbug 08/04/2008 19:22:42 CDT (0) China censoring internet access - kmomof12 08/06/2008 10:43:11 CDT (1) It SHOULDN'T be about those things . . . - YankeeMom 08/07/2008 09:28:25 CDT (0) 54. I desire a large family, but I have an issue which I could use help thinking through.... - MommyScott 08/05/2008 15:35:11 CDT (2) I would say, my weekly counseling appointments are the most useful hours of my week. Just below my prayer time. - Tiddlywinks 08/05/2008 18:56:54 CDT (0) Time....I would say you have time... - gelsum 08/06/2008 11:26:07 CDT (1) You are right - MommyScott 08/06/2008 18:32:55 CDT (0) 55. Puppies cloned..... 5 puppies for $50,000 - kmomof12 08/06/2008 11:02:15 CDT (4) I've read several articles about cloned pets. --m - Mirz 08/06/2008 15:49:17 CDT (0) Oh, and I wanted to add.. (m) - Mirz 08/06/2008 15:51:07 CDT (0) I like my dog, but not enough to fly half way around the world & shell out 50 grand! You can't create the same dog. It might look identical but not act that way. (nt) - canadianmom 08/06/2008 18:23:43 CDT (0) I think it's scary (m) - soldieratheart 08/06/2008 18:31:00 CDT (0) 56. Warning of 'punitive' action on Iran issued - kmomof12 08/06/2008 11:07:33 CDT (1) Sorry, for some reason I'am hearing John McCain singing Bomb-Bomb-Bomb Bomb-Bomb Iran - canadianmom 08/06/2008 18:57:59 CDT (1) A little humour on a serious topic... your subject line reminded me of this song... - mini-mug 08/07/2008 16:34:52 CDT (1) OMG! That is so funny! (nt) - canadianmom 08/07/2008 18:09:34 CDT (0) 57. FLDA Update... (nt) - kmomof12 08/06/2008 11:10:04 CDT (4) Oops! Sorry should be FLDS! (nt) - kmomof12 08/06/2008 11:11:37 CDT (0) Five sect members turn themselves in... - kmomof12 08/06/2008 11:14:34 CDT (0) State requests foster care for 8 children - kmomof12 08/06/2008 11:17:45 CDT (0) We had a very wise Prime Minister that once said " the state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation". I think these people are being persecuted because of their beliefs. I think the CPS is trying to justify there own screw up by harassing these people. (nt) - canadianmom 08/06/2008 18:20:14 CDT (1) when that "bedroom" includes children, too? (nt) - msjennbug 08/07/2008 09:42:15 CDT (1) "Adults" are what is the law states. Certainly if a child is involved that is different, or in the case of rape. This does not neccessarily appear to be what is happening in all these cases though. (nt) - canadianmom 08/07/2008 09:54:56 CDT (1) well you have to remember, in some states a girl can get married at 14 YO - Mama-Cleary 08/09/2008 11:48:13 CDT (1) Up until about a year ago the age of consent here was 14, now it is 16, you can marry with parental consent here before the age of 18. What really bothers me about this is the definition of marriage. You are legally married to wife#1 so you can call the rest wives but they are not legally. Why are they being charged with polygamy? I don't have a problem with arranged marriages as long as the woman is consenting. (nt) - canadianmom 08/09/2008 12:16:52 CDT (1) I'm not sure you understand the whole arranged marrage part... - Mama-Cleary 08/09/2008 14:14:51 CDT (1) From the polygamists here in Canada, we have been told that yes the marriages are arranged (appointed) however the girl must agree to it. Muslims and Hindus have arranged marriages as well so I get it. (nt) - canadianmom 08/09/2008 16:17:06 CDT (2) Oh and we do have polygamist Muslims here in Canada as well. (nt) - canadianmom 08/09/2008 17:10:53 CDT (0) it is the two biggest clans that I am talking about... - Mama-Cleary 08/09/2008 21:27:55 CDT (1) Not "legally" however because we are guaranteed the freedom of religion it would be tough to fight. Also we have legal gay marriage in Canada. The definition of marriage has now changed, I believe it opens the door to legalizing polygamy. In my opinion that would be the right thing to do. (nt) - canadianmom 08/09/2008 21:42:30 CDT (1) Actually, this is one (of many) reasons I oppose legalized gay "marriage." (nt) - YankeeMom 08/10/2008 07:47:10 CDT (1) I do not support legalized gay marriage either,however it is the law and by being vocal about not supporting it we run the risk of being charged under the hate speech act, so we quietly lump it- but if you are going to do it for one group you had better be prepared to do it for another. Polygamy is a practice sanctioned by God, who are we to say no to it? (nt) - canadianmom 08/10/2008 08:17:17 CDT (1) Good Lord, you can't even lobby to change LAWS in Canada?! So much for democracy and freedom. (nt) - YankeeMom 08/10/2008 08:35:04 CDT (1) You wouldn't survive a day up here Kristin!Heeheee! I'm not to happy with things here either latey. (nt) - canadianmom 08/10/2008 09:02:41 CDT (1) I'd be in prison! LOL. Thank God for the internet! (nt) - YankeeMom 08/10/2008 09:06:17 CDT (1) But our prisons are so cozy, with there pastel colours and free cable tv and really you would only serve less than a third of your sentence after your court-ordered therapy. OR, maybe they will just deport you- but don't worry long as you're polite and ask very, very nicely we will let you back in.( A little too bitter?) (nt) - canadianmom 08/10/2008 09:26:40 CDT (1) Will I need a passport? LOL. (Hmmm . . . could be a nice vacation. Maybe I'll dig out some protest signs . . .) (nt) - YankeeMom 08/11/2008 08:46:58 CDT (0) 58. Oil id dropping fast . . . - YankeeMom 08/08/2008 10:10:42 CDT (2) I wonder how long the price will stay lower with the Russan invasion into Georgia(ASIA) this morning? (nt) - canadianmom 08/08/2008 10:21:07 CDT (2) Russian with an "i" (nt) - canadianmom 08/08/2008 10:22:14 CDT (0) Yeah, reading about this . . . but it appears that Georgia invaded first . . . - YankeeMom 08/08/2008 11:01:48 CDT (1) Hey girl! Are you ready to build an ark too? - canadianmom 08/08/2008 11:27:51 CDT (1) Oh, it's been a TERRIBLE summer here . . . - YankeeMom 08/08/2008 11:40:52 CDT (1) talk about rain... it has rained so much that my tomatoes rotted on the vine before they turned red (nt) - Mama-Cleary 08/09/2008 11:50:13 CDT (2) The corn here is great, over 6 feet high now! The tomatoes and cucumbers are not doing so hot though. (nt) - canadianmom 08/09/2008 12:19:27 CDT (0) Wow. All this rain has actually been great for our little crop. (nt) - YankeeMom 08/09/2008 12:48:20 CDT (0) Yes, oil is dropping fast, but our gas prices do not reflect that. - gelsum 08/08/2008 13:09:48 CDT (1) mine do... gas has dropped by like .40 in the last few weeks... (nt) - Mama-Cleary 08/09/2008 11:31:04 CDT (0) 59. Russian air raid hits Georgian city (link) (nt) - Mama-Cleary 08/09/2008 11:22:09 CDT (1) CNN was reporting 2000 dead in Georgia. (nt) - canadianmom 08/09/2008 12:24:40 CDT (1) I still don't understand. WHY did Georgia invade in the first place? They had no chance against Russia. (nt) - YankeeMom 08/09/2008 13:03:51 CDT (1) if I understand it, the little piece of land was part of Georgia a few years ago and they want it back, but now all the people are Russians or most of them are... I hope they can find a way to end this before more people die... (nt) - Mama-Cleary 08/09/2008 14:01:31 CDT (1) According to the article I posted, Ossetia broke away from Georgia and has been independent (with growing ties to Russia) since the '90's. I just don't get what they were trying to do. (link inside) (nt) - YankeeMom 08/10/2008 07:43:53 CDT (1) Here is what I think happened. - canadianmom 08/10/2008 08:08:24 CDT (1) That is not what that article says . . . - YankeeMom 08/10/2008 08:33:02 CDT (1) Quiet simply the Georgians never accepted any break way status. For them it is theirs and they know it. As for the Georgians fighting the Russians, well the Afghan Mujahideen beat the Russians so any thing can happen! (nt) - canadianmom 08/10/2008 08:52:30 CDT (1) Well . . . - YankeeMom 08/10/2008 09:03:32 CDT (1) This has been on going and under reported. I think maybe it has more to do with the pipeline and Georgia, knowing that it has US support, being a little more bold. After all the US needs that pipline and Russia is going to do what it takes to gain some say on the situation-you know "by protecting Russians" who just "happen" to live in the area of the pipeline. wink-wink-nod-nod (nt) - canadianmom 08/10/2008 09:19:17 CDT (2) do you have some sorth of news clip about this, I didn't know the US got oil from there... (nt) - Mama-Cleary 08/10/2008 13:25:13 CDT (1) Google Baku pipeline and info will come up- Earlier I mentioned that Georgia was a majority Muslim country and I was incorrect- it is their neighbour I was thinking of! The pipeline was built to bypass Russia and Iran. (nt) - canadianmom 08/10/2008 19:52:32 CDT (0) Nah. Bush has condemned Russia's actions. He's more interested in a NATO country, I think. (We have plenty of sources for oil.) (nt) - YankeeMom 08/11/2008 08:45:46 CDT (1) The west gets oil from this pipeline. It is owned by BP, State oil of Azerbaijan, Norway Oil and Chevron and Exxon Mobile along with lesser share holders. Certainly not in the amount that we get from the Gulf. (nt) - canadianmom 08/11/2008 10:42:32 CDT (1) Again, the US is not supporting Russias actions. I don't think oil has anything to do with this. (At least not for the US.) (nt) - YankeeMom 08/11/2008 15:49:11 CDT (1) I don't think the US is supporting Russia, I do think that this is a bit of a finger in the eye to the US though. After all, compromise the pipeline and cause problems to the global economy (nt) - canadianmom 08/11/2008 16:35:28 CDT (1) talking about the economy... is it just me or have potatoes gone up... just about everything has gone way up... (nt) - Mama-Cleary 08/11/2008 19:25:12 CDT (1) You know it! - canadianmom 08/11/2008 20:07:50 CDT (1) I try to get sugar when it is .99 for 5LBS and potateos are 4.99 for 5LBS sometimes I can get them B1G1F but if you need them now you can't wait for the sale KWIM... I am happy to say bread is still 1.19 for cheap white bread... - Mama-Cleary 08/12/2008 08:59:25 CDT (0) 60. Not world news, just Cleary news about Christmas... - Mama-Cleary 08/10/2008 21:47:19 CDT (2) Sorry to hear about your Turkey. I had a turkey growing up, she used to go for walks with me. I loved her. I do often think of the animal that we are sitting down to. (nt) - canadianmom 08/11/2008 17:00:33 CDT (0) I'm so sorry about your turkey. That stinks. (nt) - jemarmy 08/16/2008 23:03:08 CDT (0) 61. On Saturday it is the Hindu celebration of Rakhi - canadianmom 08/12/2008 14:49:15 CDT (0) 62. Oil still dropping, even w/Russian conflict - YankeeMom 08/12/2008 19:01:28 CDT (2) Kristin this is not out of the blue. I don't think that Georgia started it. I will however take a drop in the price at the pump. (nt) - canadianmom 08/12/2008 20:12:22 CDT (1) everyone in the news has said that they did... why do you think Georgia didn't start this, did you see something in the news that maybe I didn't??? (nt) - Mama-Cleary 08/12/2008 20:25:45 CDT (1) Exactly. They invaded. That's a known fact. The problem is Russia's very strong response (which Bush opposes.) (nt) - YankeeMom 08/12/2008 20:33:44 CDT (1) Here is another fact for ya - canadianmom 08/12/2008 21:48:04 CDT (1) Ossetia hasn't been part of Georgia for like 20-25 years, with that kind of thinking.. - Mama-Cleary 08/13/2008 10:04:27 CDT (2) Exactly . . . Ossetia has been independent of BOTH . . . - YankeeMom 08/13/2008 10:14:49 CDT (1) if it did work out that way and Russia did take Georgia, do you think they might try to take back all of the old Soviet Union??? - Mama-Cleary 08/13/2008 10:24:19 CDT (1) I don't for financial reasons (primarily) . . . - YankeeMom 08/13/2008 10:37:15 CDT (1) I just keep thinking about the 2000 or more people that have been killed :-( (nt) - Mama-Cleary 08/13/2008 10:44:05 CDT (1) Well . . . - YankeeMom 08/13/2008 11:31:40 CDT (1) I don't think that the west is apathetic, I do think that most western countries try to stay way from armed conflict and yes he US has little resources left to do much (nt) - canadianmom 08/13/2008 11:56:49 CDT (2) Nah, I say the west is apathetic -- esp. Europe . . . - YankeeMom 08/13/2008 12:34:41 CDT (1) I can honestly say that radical Islam is not keeping me awake at night (m) - canadianmom 08/13/2008 13:13:24 CDT (1) Well, Canadians don't have to worry, they have the good ole U.S.A. to protect them. Funny . . . - YankeeMom 08/13/2008 13:27:55 CDT (1)